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		<title>FINALLY!!! A Council Admits That Council Tax Liability Orders Don&#8217;t Exist!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plymouth Council have admitted in writing that there are NO COUNCIL LIABILITY ORDERS In Existence! - For years at www.NoCouncilTax.com we have been campaigning in a number of cases to get these corrupt councils to produce a "True and Original Copy" of one of these alleged "Liability Orders".]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Plymouth Council have admitted in writing that there are NO COUNCIL LIABILITY ORDERS In Existence!</h3>
<p>For years we have now been campaigning in a number of cases to get these corrupt councils to produce a &#8220;True and Original Copy&#8221; of one of these alleged &#8220;Liability Orders&#8221;.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the scam that the councils are trying to pull off!</p>
<ol>
<li>They Issue a summons to you for not paying council tax.</li>
<p></p>
<li>When you go to court they try and trick you by meeting with you first in a little room to try and get you to admit &#8220;liability&#8221; for the council tax by getting you to agree to pay so much per month. This admission of liability on your part means that they can secure a &#8220;liability order&#8221; without you even entering the court!</li>
<p></p>
<li>If you don&#8217;t agree to pay then they issue a liability order anyway.</li>
<p></p>
<li>Now, our research shows that a &#8220;Proper Court Order&#8221; MUST have certain things on it and these are:
<ol>
	<strong>
<li>A Wet ink Signature of the Judge or Justices Clerk who signed it on the day (Not a facsimilie signature)</li>
<p></p>
<li>The Royal Identifier (i.e. Royal Coat Of Arms)</li>
<p></p>
<li>Once the court date has passed they send a &#8220;Notice Of A Liability Order&#8221;</li>
<p></strong>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
<div style="margin-top:-15px;"></div>
<p>And this is where the scam exposes itself &#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>If the councils had a True and Original Liability Order (as per above) then why wouldn&#8217;t they send you a copy of that instead of sending you a piece of paper typed up on Microsoft Word claiming that they have a liability order.</strong>
</p></blockquote>
<p>A number of us have not been paying council for the last two years successfully because when challenged over this LAWFULLY because we back them into a corner! Here&#8217;s how &#8230;</p>
<ol>
<li>We conditionally Accept their offer to pay council tax upon proof of claim (In other words they have to prove a number of points) &#8211; if they don&#8217;t we withold payment.</li>
<p></p>
<li>When they send a summons (Invitation to attend their place of business) we ignore it.</li>
<p></p>
<li>When they send a &#8220;NOTICE OF LIABILITY ORDER&#8221; we write back and send them a &#8220;NOTICE OF REBUTTAL&#8221; and &#8220;NOTICE OF REQUEST FOR TRUE AND ORIGINAL COPY OF COURT LIABILITY ORDER&#8221; which of course must meet the requirements stated earleir.</li>
<p></p>
<li>They then send in the bailiffs who we serve with bailiff packs (Download from www.freedomrebels.co.uk) and issue them with Bills for attending (we also video them and put them on youtube!)</li>
<p></p>
<li>Eventually the bailiffs get bored with that game and hand the thin back to the Council.</li>
<p></p>
<li>The council eventually send a letter telling you they will send you to court &#8220;for committal to prison&#8221; proceedings.</li>
<p></p>
<li>We then send them a letter which basically says this &#8230;</li>
</ol>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;If you are going to bring the matter into a criminal court and are going to rely on the alleged liability order in your case then the law and due process dictates that you must send me a copy of the TRUE and ORIGINAL LIABILITY ORDER, with all the correct attributes thereupon. </strong></p>
<p><strong>The law concerning disclosure dictates that you, the council, are required to do this at least 14 days before the hearing.<br />
</strong><strong><br />
Therefore, if you are going to rely on this document we will bring it up in court that you have vexatiously withehld it at all times and therefore this matter and the valuable time of the court would not have been wasted and also because you, the council are required to disclose it 14 days before the hearing you will have no problem sending it to me now &#8230; will you?&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Normally at this point &#8230; the council go away because you have backed them into a corner lawfully. They know they can&#8217;t go into a court and rely on a piece of paper which &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>BY THE ADMISSION OF PLYMOUTH COUNCIL &#8230; DOESN&#8217;T EXIST ON PAPER!</strong></p>
<p>They also know that you are going to counter claim against them for being vexatious.</p>
<p>Here is the document from Plymouth Council telling us all that these Liability order are non existent!<br />
<a href="http://www.nocounciltax.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Plymouth-Council-Admits-That-Council-Tax-Liability-Orders-Do-Not-Exist-Part-1.jpg" title="Plymouth Council Admits That Council Tax Liability Orders Do Not Exist Part 1"><img src="http://www.nocounciltax.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Plymouth-Council-Admits-That-Council-Tax-Liability-Orders-Do-Not-Exist-Part-1-663x1024.jpg" alt="Plymouth Council Admits That Council Tax Liability Orders Do Not Exist Part 1" title="Plymouth Council Admits That Council Tax Liability Orders Do Not Exist Part 1" width="663" height="1024" class="alignleft size-large wp-image-136" /></a></p>
<p>So there you have it! Proof undeniable, from the council themselves that they don&#8217;t ACTUALLY have a Liability Order that conforms to any sort of Lawful requirement! And yet, on the back of this scam they creaming Billions from us all!</p>
<p>We believe that for this unlawful council tax abomination there is a truth in the words of Rutger Hauer&#8217;s character Roy Batty in the film Bladerunner!</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Time &#8230; To Die!&#8221;<br />
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		<title>Fraudulent Liability Order From Plymouth Council &#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which brings us onto the Liability Orders (allegedly) that these "courts" issue, these prove that these are NOT true courts and these liability orders are just made up bits of paper with no lawful meaning whatsoever.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8230;</p>
<p>Take a look at this &#8220;alleged Liability Order&#8221; from Plymouth Council &#8211; really, you couldn&#8217;t make this stuff up. Unfortunately in this case Plymouth City Council have done just that!</p>
<p>We have known for a long time these &#8220;council Tax Hearings&#8221; are nothing more than &#8220;corporate meetings&#8221; paraded to you and I as &#8220;court Cases&#8221; &#8211; well the next time you get a summons &#8211; write to HMCS and ask them what they know about the case. The answer is &#8230; NOTHING!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Odd? If these Council Tax Court Appearances were TRUE court cases then HMCS would know all about it. Instead they simply say &#8220;It&#8217;s a matter for the council&#8221; &#8211; well if thats the case then what the hell are these cases doing in a court???</p>
<p>Of course the reason the councils do this is obvious &#8230;</p>
<p>Ask yourself, if you had stopped paying council tax and they rang you up politely and asked you to go a meeting in the council offices &#8230; would you go? No and neither would the rest of us. So the councils &#8220;hire&#8221; the court which pays the magistrates to make bulk liability orders on the pretext that its a real court case.</p>
<p>Which it isn&#8217;t &#8230;</p>
<p>Which brings us onto the Liability Orders (allegedly) that these &#8220;courts&#8221; issue, these prove that these are NOT true courts and these liability orders are just made up bits of paper with no lawful meaning whatsoever.</p>
<p>Take a look at the image below and you will see the following major failings in this document.</p>
<p><strong>1. No Royal Coat of Arms<br />
2. No Seal of The Court (The stamp the clerk stamps the orders with)<br />
3. No &#8220;wet ink&#8221; signature of the issuing magistrate or Clerk<br />
4. Scribbled out / amended figures (are they making it up or what?)<br />
5. No indication as to who the signatory is<br />
6. No Name / Address of who the liability order is against<br />
7. No date<br />
8. No case number</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nocounciltax.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/fraudulent_liability_order_PCC_2010_01.jpg" title="fraudulent_liability_order_PCC_2010_01"><img class="alignleft size-large wp-image-109" title="fraudulent_liability_order_PCC_2010_01" src="http://www.nocounciltax.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/fraudulent_liability_order_PCC_2010_01-717x1024.jpg" alt="" width="495" height="707" /></a><br />
<br />
Not only that, the document looks like it could have been created by any council employee who had been on a weeks course of Microsoft Word. To try and lay claim that this is a TRUE COURT order is laughable.</p>
<p>Many of us who are not paying this unlawful tax have been attempting to gain a true and original copy of a liability order issued and sealed by a court for over two years now and so far we have had NO success. We know why &#8230; it&#8217;s because the Councils DO NOT have such a document. There is NO court order. These &#8220;liability orders&#8221; are just corporate papwerwork created out of a corporate hearing and they know that when we push them into a TRUE court of law they will have to show which Judge and which Court produced the liability order (the true one) and as no court did &#8230; they will either have to admit</p>
<p>A) FRAUD<br />
B) PERJURY (if they try and enter this Liability Order as a true court order)<br />
C) ALL OF THE ABOVE!</p>
<p>Download a PDF copy of this document &#8211; <a href="http://storagebins.raymondstclair.co.uk/nocounciltax/pdf/fraudulent_liability_order_PCC_2010_01.pdf"><strong>CLICK HERE</strong></a></p>
<p>For a more detailed expose of the fraud being visit:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=13425&amp;sid=d1e918b508323832657c618e85c5f0a5&amp;start=10#p110402">http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=13425&amp;sid=d1e918b508323832657c618e85c5f0a5&amp;start=10#p110402</a></p>
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		<title>Plymouth Entrepreneur Prepared To Go To Jail in Council Tax Row With Plymouth Council</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Bamping, aged 36, has been ordered by a court to pay a year's tax plus costs of £1,392. He admitted to Plymouth magistrates he had not paid anything on his Band C house in Mutley since April – and that he would not pay anything.]]></description>
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<p>ENTREPRENEUR Danny Bamping has said he would rather go to prison than pay his council tax in a dispute with the city council over student housing.</p>
<p>Mr Bamping, aged 36, has been ordered by a court to pay a year&#8217;s tax plus costs of £1,392.</p>
<p>He admitted to Plymouth magistrates he had not paid anything on his Band C house in Mutley since April – and that he would not pay anything.</p>
<p>Mr Bamping, the managing director of Bedlam Puzzles and Crazee Thingz who once appeared on the BBC&#8217;s Dragons&#8217; Den, told the court it was unfair he should pay tax while the landlords of student properties are exempt.</p>
<p>He said his house in Hillside Avenue was in an area where there was a high concentration of student houses which caused disruption to other residents.</p>
<p>Mr Bamping, a father-of-three young daughters, added: &#8220;There are nearly 3,500 student properties in Plymouth exempt from paying council tax. If they were not exempt then that would be another £4.5 million coming into the city.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>He said if the national policy was reversed across the country, it would pay back &#8216;over £1 billion&#8217; to the national debt.
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<p>Mr Bamping told the court: &#8220;The country is facing a lot of very difficult decisions, but reversing the exemption would be a relatively easy one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Plymouth City Council took Mr Bamping to court to force him to pay council tax for the last six months and also the coming six months.</p>
<p>The magistrates were advised they could not get involved in the rights and wrongs of council policy and had to grant a liability order if they thought he owed the money.</p>
<p>The bench granted an order for £1,392.37 for tax plus costs.</p>
<p>Mr Bamping was warned that if he did not pay he could be brought back to court for a committal warrant. He could then be sent to prison.</p>
<p>Mr Bamping said outside court he would not pay and was prepared to go to jail.</p>
<p>He said: &#8220;You have to make a stand. I don&#8217;t want this to be an idle threat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Credit: <a href="http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Entrepreneur-prepared-jail-tax-row/article-2903701-detail/article.html">http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Entrepreneur-prepared-jail-tax-row/article-2903701-detail/article.html</a></p>
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		<title>So much for recycling: Plymouth Council Binmen caught emptying &#8216;green&#8217; bin and ordinary rubbish into the SAME lorry!!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the moment binmen were caught on camera emptying a recycling bin and one with ordinary rubbish into the SAME lorry.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the moment binmen were caught on camera emptying a recycling bin and one with ordinary rubbish into the SAME lorry.<br />
Residents could not believe their eyes when they saw council employees wheeling the refuse containers towards the dump truck.</p>
<p>One person had time to grab their camera and took this image of a brown and a green bin being emptied into the vehicle.</p>
<p>And residents claim the practice has now been going on in Plymouth, Devon, for six weeks.</p>
<p><a href="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/18/article-0-0A18AE43000005DC-667_634x421.jpg" title="Plymouth Council Binmen Emptying Recycled Rubbish Into Same Lorry as Non Recycled Rubbish"><img class="alignleft" title="Plymouth Council Binmen Emptying Recycled Rubbish Into Same Lorry as Non Recycled Rubbish" src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/18/article-0-0A18AE43000005DC-667_634x421.jpg" alt="Plymouth Council Binmen Emptying Recycled Rubbish Into Same Lorry as Non Recycled Rubbish" width="634" height="421" /></a></p>
<p>What a waste: Council workers look on as the two bins are emptied into the back of the same lorry</p>
<p>One man, who did not want to be named, said residents decided to take action after they complained to the council and received no response.</p>
<p>He said: &#8216;They just come along and get both bins and put them in the same truck. We wash our bottles and tins and we want them to be recycled.</p>
<p>&#8216;It&#8217;s a waste of time if they are putting them in the same truck as the unrecyclable waste.</p>
<p>&#8216;We saw it happen for the first time and thought it was a one-off, but now we have seen it again and again.&#8217;</p>
<p>The pictures were taken as the contracted refuse workers did their round in a service lane behind residents&#8217; houses on Wednesday morning.</p>
<p>Those living on the street say they all adhere to the council&#8217;s recycling policy and are upset because they want to see the recyclable material kept separate.</p>
<p>They claim the same thing had happened on the past three green-and-brown bin collections, despite making complaints to the Plymouth City Council.</p>
<p>A female resident, who also asked to remain anonymous, took pictures of the incident and described what she saw as &#8216;terrible&#8217;.</p>
<p>She said: &#8216;I have always washed and separated out all my recyclable waste, but I&#8217;m not going to recycle any more until I am sure that the council is recycling it properly.&#8217;</p>
<p>She added that the council might say it was difficult to get lorries through &#8211; but if they could get one lorry through, they could get both a waste wagon and a recycling lorry in, she argued.</p>
<p>Plymouth City Council said that a &#8216;significant proportion&#8217; of the green bins in the service lane had been contaminated with non-recyclable waste.</p>
<p>Therefore, in line with council policy, they were reclassified as &#8216;unrecyclable&#8217; and emptied into a &#8216;brown&#8217; refuse truck, a spokesman said.</p>
<p>&#8216;A significant proportion of the green bins had also been &#8220;contaminated&#8221; with non-recyclable waste, so they were emptied into the same truck,&#8217; he said.</p>
<p>&#8216;Vehicles have been blocking access for our refuse and recycling trucks and we have had problems emptying the bins in this road for a number of weeks.</p>
<p>&#8216;This meant there was a considerable build-up of rubbish and we received several complaints from residents that green and brown bins were overflowing.</p>
<p>&#8216;Access was still blocked on Wednesday so we sent a crew in a smaller lorry to clear the rubbish as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>&#8216;We can assure residents that they can keep up their excellent recycling efforts safe in the knowledge that it is all contributing to reducing landfill and creating a cleaner environment.&#8217;</p>
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